Basting Your EPP Shapes - Glue vs Thread
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I've spent the week watching The Newsroom with Jeff Daniels. Have you seen it? It's about an idealistic anchor and his team creating the kind of news program you could offer if money wasn't an issue or if everyone was passionate about politics. Nothing at all to do with basting EPP shapes, but it has me feeling a little disingenuous as I sit to write this 'Glue vs Thread' basting post, because rather than offering a fair debate from both sides, I am well and truly a card-carrying glue baster. Where's my panel of experts!
I tried EPP three times in my early days of quilting. The first project went unfinished forever. I have no idea where it is now. The second got cut up and used in an orphan block mash-up. The third did actually get finished, because it was a baby quilt for my third-born that I wanted done before her birth. But after that, I decided I was done. I had made my one hexie quilt that every quilter should try, and I never needed to go near that again.
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A couple of years later, my local sewing machine repair guy went AWOL while my machine was at his house for a routine service. It stayed there for 4 or 5 months and I was forced to either take up hand-work again or buy or borrow another machine. Due to my circumstances at the time, EPP was my best option.
I have to say that with all my chaos and mess and chronic uncertainty, one thing I really like about myself is that I'm really good at diving into plan B. I don't get stuck. And so, now that English Paper Piecing was becoming a bit more popular, with pre-cut shapes, and specialty glue pens available, I jumped in feet first, and ordered all the toys that would make this time different.
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Now, usually this is the part of the story where I say that it turns out that the toys were a waste of time and money, and I should have known that 200 years of quilters had it right all along. But the toys totally worked. I started to copy a quilt from the 1890s and I was hooked.
(As a complete aside, this is when I also got the idea to make paper piecing kits because firstly, I bought 100 shapes and they weren't nearly enough, but I had no idea to check first because I usually just dove into my stash and started sewing. And secondly because I chose the wrong size, and about half way in, realised my first big EPP project was going to finish at 110" square! Years later, I remade this quilt in a more respectable size and called it Alexandria.)
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Different Ways to Baste EPP Shapes
So I'm going to lay out the pros and cons of glue basting and thread basting as well as a little how-to for each, but you should know that the pros of thread basting aren't mine, they're just what my lovely thread-basting customers say whenever I bring this up. If you're one of those folks, and I miss something, please add it to the comments below.
The pros and cons aren't evenly weighted, and they're very subjective. You can decide which ones matter to you. My goal isn't to convert anyone to a certain kind of basting EPP shapes. I really don't care how you baste! My goal is to make it easy for you to allow more time for creativity. And in a busy and distracting world, if there's a lot of friction in the way you do something, it's much harder to enjoy giving space to it. I thought I hated EPP, but really I just hated using stiff cereal box cardboard, and I wanted to dive in and start sewing already. I'm so grateful today that I gave it another chance by trying some different techniques.
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Glue Basting
To glue baste, place the paper piece on the back of the fabric piece. Put a small line of glue along one edge of the paper. Don't glue over the edge of the paper or onto the fabric. It's better still if you can leave a gap between your glue line and the edge of the paper. Doing so will stop glue getting into the fold and making it harder to stitch through.
Fold the seam allowance over. Turn the shape and fabric around so that you can glue the next edge easily. Repeat until all the fabric edges are folded over the shape.
I get equally great results from regular craft glue stick over a quilting brand. (I use Bostik, a lot of my US friends use Elmers.)
Edited after feedback (thank you!):
- The glue I use is water soluble, as is the quilting brand, so any residue will come out in the wash.
- If you're a glue newbie, make just one block to begin with and get feedback. Is it hard to stitch through the fold? Is it hard to take the papers out? You might be using too much glue. Is the fabric fraying when you pull it up? You could try a bigger seam allowance.
Read more about how to glue baste your quilts safely, as well as various pros and cons among glue brands in this post.
Glue Basting Pros:
- Speed. It's very fast.
- Accuracy. You get a much tighter fold over the paper.
- Fun. (I'm just adding it there as my purely subjective opinion. I really, really enjoy the basting stage now that I use glue.)
- I prefer peeling the paper up to snipping threads at the end.
Glue Basting Cons:
- Mess. You get mess on your fingers, and glue globs build up around the stick. I like having a scrap bit of fabric to wipe up the globs every now and then so that they don't fall off into your fabric fold.
- Set up. I like to take over the dining table for this one. I do have a great laptop table that I use on the couch, and sometimes for travel, but generally I keep it at home.
- Requires more pressing after you take the papers out. (if you have a lot of trouble peeling up the fabric, try using less glue)
- Consumable. You have to keep buying more, and you throw out the glue cartridges when you're done.
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Thread Basting
To thread baste, secure the fabric to the paper piece somehow before you start. Some people use a dab of glue between the fabric and paper, others use a Clover Clip. Fold two adjacent seam allowances over the paper piece. Using needle and thread with a knot at the end, stitch through the fabric fold. Turn the piece in you hand to the next corner, and fold the next seam over. Thread through the fabric fold. Continue around the shape.
One of my followers on Instagram recommended the technique shown in the photos so you don't have to stitch through the fabric twice. I thought that was a great idea! Also, you need to note that once you get bigger than a 1" side, you need to stitch through the paper also, and then come back up through the middle of the side, and then down through the next corner.
Thread Basting Pros:
- People who love thread basting tell me they get very quick at it with practice.
- There are no sticky fingers.
- It's a great use of scrap thread on bobbins or the random thread you inherited from someone who knew you loved sewing.
- It's portable - you don't need to lean on a table to do it.
- It's easier to take the papers out (if shapes are small) and easier to press at the end.
Thread Basting Cons:
- It feels slower and more fiddly to me. I've never gotten into a rhythm with the stitches. At my current pace, I am 5 times slower than glue basting.
- You need to pull the stitches out at the end if you thread through the paper.
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Final Thoughts about Basting EPP Papers
Well, if I was reading this as a newbie, I would try thread basting first without a second thought! It really is very good on paper. It can be easy when making decisions about process to weigh up these things like it's purely a rational choice. But I am not a rational person and I choose the process I enjoy more rather than the one that makes more sense. I have come to love glue basting EPP shapes, and because of that, I love English Paper Piecing. If you've given it a try before and it didn't work for you, tune in to which part led to the frustration, and rather than throwing out the whole baby, tweak the technique. Perhaps like me, you'll discover a whole world of life-giving joy waiting for you.
Which basting do you prefer? I would love to hear why. Share your experience below to add more voices to the debate!
I love glue basting. I started epp by trying thread basting and in an evening, I would get maybe enough pieces basted to sew one shape and I could never find a good rhythm for it. I then tried glue basting and it was like magic – suddenly I could get all of my shapes for multiple blocks in an evening and even start sewing on them.
I’ve used regular glue sticks and the “fancy” sewing specific glue sticks, and I haven’t noticed a difference. The only thing that worries me for regular glue sticks is I’ve heard people say (quilt police-y type people so I’m not sure if it matters?!) that if I don’t use the special sewing/fabric glue, the glue will start to degrade the fabric and the quilt won’t last, which made me nervous as a new quilter so I overbought sewing specific glue sticks and am still working through them three epp quilts later.
Tried glue basting first…not a fan, too messy.
Thread basting is faster for me, I use the same method shown above.
I don’t remove the basting threads…..they don’t seem to interfere with with anything….or I just have not found that yet😬
I would vote for glue any day! I used the Elmer’s glue sticks and have never had a problem. I like to glue on the cardstock instead of the fabric.
I love EPP and its mostly because of your Ice Cream Soda monthly kits I got in about 2017! I am about to finish hand quilting it (I know, don’t do the math). I’m a thread baster – tries glue and it was just everywhere and I couldn’t remove pieces easily. I admire those that use glue though-it does seem faster. However, I love the batching process of basting the pieces, sewing them together, removing the thread then pieces. Thank you! Later this summer I’m starting one from your book!
Oh my, already 133 comments here, I will have to read all of them whilst treadmilling.
Sometimes I enjoy hand sewing and other times not. I hate tangled thread, and despise dull needles. Those are two reasons I have not ever made a huge EPP project. I have made zillions of hexies for flowers to applique
I did make one EPP project of my own design, just a round sort of thing, and now it just sits there with the papers removed about 18" round. Probably because of the fabrics I used, I think it is ugly.
I do not use glue. It gets on my iron. I do not use glue in my sewing room at all. (just my own peeve, I know)
I am very picky about a dirty iron.
Okay so, during the day, I am doing other stuff, or dragging around my bag of hexies to hand sew.
in the PM during tv murder shows (mainly britbox or Hulu) I make hexies. I use a water spray bottle and my iron.
I iron the fabric neatly onto the papers. Then I put the hexies under my heavy chunk of iron to cool down
Then I clip them together and put them in my carry bag, or sew them right there in front of the tv.
I do not sew through the paper, I do exactly as the photo above, just a quick few stitches all the way around.
ironing the small fabrics to the hexie just keeps them neat and tidy.
My work table and ironing board face the tv.
My big whine is needles. I hate dull needles. I hate cheap crummy or poorly made needles too.
The twisty thread, I can cope with. I have to just be sure not to turn the needle so much that the thread twists.
Every few stitches, either stay stitching the hexies or joining the hexies, I need to hold the needle up and let the piece dangle to “unwind”
I have never tried any fancy waxes or expensive threads.
I have never made an entire EPP quilt, but your new Willowby pattern has me swooning. I just do not know if I have the time or focus for a project like that. I am my 99 yo daddys caregiver and “some times” a gramma to both of my daughters kiddos but those relationships are kind of odd lately. I am an olden nurse, and I made some statements about vaccines and precautions, separating doses (docs want to get you in and out in one visit, but it is not good)
so with that advice to daughters and their husbands I have been scolded soundly and that is just what it is. ::sigh::
I sew a lot. It makes me happy.
I am delighted to see so many comments here and I am going to read each one
Happy May and blessings to you and yours dear Jodi. You are loved greatly
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